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Has the final thread snapped?

The now famous or infamous “White Horse” prophecy is something that has made the rounds over the years. It is an alleged record of a prophecy recorded by Edwin Rushton and Theodore Turley who claim that they heard Joseph Smith make some predictions in their own home around May 6, 1843.

It may very well be all true and recorded accurately, partially true at least, but some of the details of the statement are in doubt since we don’t have record of Joseph stating many of the details elsewhere. The main oft-repeated idea from the ‘prophecy’ is the concept that the Constitution of the United States would “hang by a thread” and that the “Elders of Israel” or “The Church” would be the means somehow “preserve” it or “bear it away” from total destruction.

President Joseph F. Smith said in the October 1918 General Conference  said that the prophecy “…was never spoken by the prophet in the manner in which they [Rushton and Turley] have put it forth.” What Joseph Smith actually said, that we have record of was:

“Even this nation will be on the verge of crumbling to pieces and tumbling to the ground and when the Constitution is on the brink of ruin this people will be the staff upon which the nation shall lean and they shall bear the Constitution away from the very verge of destruction.” – President Joseph Smith, Jr (19 July 1840, as recorded by Martha Jane Knowlton Coray; ms. in Church Historian’s Office, Salt Lake City)

Eliza R. Snow recollected Joseph Smith saying:

“I heard the prophet Joseph Smith say the time would come when this nation would so far depart from its original purity, its glory, and its love for freedom and its protection of civil rights and religious rights, that the Constitution of our countrywould hang as it were by a thread. He said, also, that this people, the sons of Zion, would rise up and save the Constitution and bear it off triumphantly.” – Eliza R. Snow

Even though many of the predictions in the “White Horse Prophecy” might be in question, the idea that the Constitution would be in danger and next to destruction has been stated on many occasions by several General Authorities of the church. Ezra Taft Benson even validated this idea:

“Concerning the United States, the Lord revealed to his prophets that its greatest threat would be a vast, world-wide ‘secret combination’ which would not only threaten United States but also seek to ‘overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries’ (Ether 8:25)… In connection with attack on the United States, the Lord told the Prophet Joseph Smith there would be an attempt to overthrow the country by destroying the Constitution. Joseph Smith predicted that the time would come when the Constitution would hang, as it were, by a thread, and at that time ‘this people will step forth and save it from threatened destruction’ (Journal History, Brigham Young’s Speech, July 4, 1854) – “The American Heritage of Freedom” by Ezra Taft Benson. From God, Family, Country: Our Three Great Loyalties, pg. 356. 1974.

J. Reuben Clark, as an apostle, has stated:

“You and I have heard all our lives that the time may come when the Constitution may hang by a thread. I do not know whether it is a thread, or a small rope by which it now hangs, but I do know that whether it shall live or die is now in the balance” (Conference Report, October 1942, p.58).

Brigham Young didn’t mince words when he bypassed the idea of a “hanging thread” and stated that the Constitution would be “torn to shreds” at a future point.

When the people shall have torn to shreds the Constitution of the United States the Elders of Israel will be found holding it up to the nations of earth and proclaiming liberty and equal rights to all men, and extending the hand of fellowship to the oppressed of all nations. (Journal of Discourses, 21:8)

It was Ezra Taft Benson, however, who revealed what that final ‘thread’ would be that the Constitution would hang from:

“Our great Constitution has been beaten and torn until now it hangs by a single thread, and that thread is our franchise to vote.” (Ezra Taft Benson, 1976, Freeman Institute, Provo, Utah)

It seems clear by these and many other quotes not referenced in this article that the Constitution will at some point in time be near total destruction and may even be destroyed at the national level only to be preserved among the community of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and possibly other pockets of patriots and others. Sounds extreme, but crazier things have happened throughout history!

As you consider these statements, watch and think about the following videos and the last link at the bottom and ask yourself how thick you think that last thread is, or if there is a thread anymore at all:

Programmer under oath admits that elections are rigged

Hacking Democracy

Princeton University Exposes Diebold Flaws

1 Minute E Voting Machine Hack

Hack The Vote

WV Vote Flipping Caught on Tape

20 Amazing Facts About Voting in the USA

“You know, comrades, that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.” – Joseph Stalin, “Memoirs of the former secretary of Stalin” by Boris Bazhanov

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July 4, 2011 – Corrected quote attributed to Spencer W. Kimball that was actually a quote from Ezra Taft Benson (Thanks Brian!)

  • Seeker

    I don’t know if the Constitution has even a thread to hang by. I’d say there is a micro-fiber.

    What does it matter if there is even that little, if even the head of the nation doesn’t acknowledge the Constitution but continually flaunts his power and openly states that it is out dated and needs to be done away with, and is openly against Christian values, institutions, and our way of life?

    Many people just care about money, sports, and material goods and are not concerned about loss of liberty as long as they have their comforts.

    The statutes of the Constitution were set in place to protect life, liberty and property, and protect us against encroachment by big government.

    But those statutes to protect the people have been corroded continually, either by corrupt money-seeking, power hungry politicians, or by the apathy of the people who didn’t care to notice their loss of freedoms. They are so use to socialistic newspeak that they haven’t been aware of their loss. As long as they have their handouts from the top, they are happy.

    What can we do when elected officials can be bought out, and our votes manipulated?
    We have put up with traitors leading us for so many years, that the powers of darkness cover the land. The sun shines but the darkness in men’s hearts are seeking to gain the upper hand.
    I believe many people are in an apathetic state. That, or the fact that most who are even awake don’t have the influence, money, or power to do anything about the corruption going on in high places, so they just go about life as best they can.
    Even watchmen in Christian churches across America have been silenced by their 501-c-3 corporate agreements which forbid them taking a political stand. The warning voices have been bought out.
    Because the Gaddiantions have grown so numerous and strong, they have gained inroads into every facet of society today.

    I wonder how Mormon and Moroni felt as they saw their Nephite nation falling and watched at the last battle as their people were being destroyed.
    I believe we are to continually do as it counseled in the D&C where it says we should “waste and wear out our lives brining to light the secret works of darkness,” even though we are outnumbered and the battle looks hopeless.

    The Constitution most likely won’t be saved for the whole nation, but will be held inviolate by the few righteous who retain those concepts in their hearts and homes.
    The prophecies of Isaiah pretty much tell us what the future will hold. I’m just not sure of the time frame or how long it will take for a nation to completely be thrown to the ground.

    • oneclimbs

      I think that for the most part the ability to change governments is out of our hands. I don’t think this means that we give up, but I do think we need to be very discerning as to where we put our time and efforts. As Joseph Fielding Smith once said, “Satan is in control now” and that none of the rulers of the nations are in control, it’s Satan himself.

      Secret combinations are above us. They are ravaging our reserves, eliminating the borders of nations and seeking to reduce our inhabitants through policies that are pure eugenics.

      We are trying so hard to change the outer vessel while the inner vessel is full of rampant idolatry and perversions. There is only safety in the strength of God.

      Tyrants all fall the same way though. http://oneclimbs.com/2013/07/07/goliath-laban-and-the-new-world-order/